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		<title>By: Marble Floor Polishing</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marble Floor Polishing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stumbled and delicious this post.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled and delicious this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Aravind</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aravind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once you develop a model in arctool box and publish it as webservice, if i want any  changes to be made, is it possible. For example i need to change input parameters for the web service, want to take user given coordinate of a rectange and apply it as a spatial filter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once you develop a model in arctool box and publish it as webservice, if i want any  changes to be made, is it possible. For example i need to change input parameters for the web service, want to take user given coordinate of a rectange and apply it as a spatial filter.</p>
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		<title>By: Vittal ts</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vittal ts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[using ArcGIS Server can we do following  things

We would like a web enabled preferably thin client solutions on J2EE tech stack with Oracle database for the following features: - 

1&gt; User can draw new geographical regions on top of base maps (having country, states, city boundaries, road, railline etc.) to create different administrative areas.
2&gt; User can drill down/hyperlink even to the level of 1 meter resolution and can create network assets like Feeder, Distribution Transformer, Poles, Customer Premises etc probably on a raster map
3&gt; All the above information required to be geo coded
4&gt; Consumer Index should be supported
5&gt; User can view different reports either using Oracle Reports/thematic mapping by selecting one or multiple regions/line assets/point assets from the GIS user interface

All the above activities should update not only the GIS database but if required the application database as well.

Please let us know your feedback

Regards
vittal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using ArcGIS Server can we do following  things</p>
<p>We would like a web enabled preferably thin client solutions on J2EE tech stack with Oracle database for the following features: &#8211; </p>
<p>1&#038;gt; User can draw new geographical regions on top of base maps (having country, states, city boundaries, road, railline etc.) to create different administrative areas.<br />
2&#038;gt; User can drill down/hyperlink even to the level of 1 meter resolution and can create network assets like Feeder, Distribution Transformer, Poles, Customer Premises etc probably on a raster map<br />
3&#038;gt; All the above information required to be geo coded<br />
4&#038;gt; Consumer Index should be supported<br />
5&#038;gt; User can view different reports either using Oracle Reports/thematic mapping by selecting one or multiple regions/line assets/point assets from the GIS user interface</p>
<p>All the above activities should update not only the GIS database but if required the application database as well.</p>
<p>Please let us know your feedback</p>
<p>Regards<br />
vittal</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While you can publish a &quot;map&quot;, via an MXD,  as far as I know, it just makes the map/data available. You can load this in your local ArcMap (View/Editor/Info), but you&#039;re not going to get any more &quot;tools&quot; (the tools are COM objects, on your box, that talk to your license manager - no getting around that). 

Server can be used to publish geoprocessing services as well, and that may be what you saw. This is designed to allow  heavy weight processes to run on dedicated high-performance hardware - which likely has high-speed connections to the data. I&#039;m not sure if you can submit local data to be remotely processed, but that may be possible. You can be pretty sure that ESRI has not created a loop hole in their licensing, where by you can get ArcInfo functions in ArcView. And I&#039;d submit that the cost of trying to setup a Server based system to get you access to the Editor/Info level tools will cost you much much more in time/consulting that the actual license!

Cheers,

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you can publish a &#8220;map&#8221;, via an MXD,  as far as I know, it just makes the map/data available. You can load this in your local ArcMap (View/Editor/Info), but you&#8217;re not going to get any more &#8220;tools&#8221; (the tools are COM objects, on your box, that talk to your license manager &#8211; no getting around that). </p>
<p>Server can be used to publish geoprocessing services as well, and that may be what you saw. This is designed to allow  heavy weight processes to run on dedicated high-performance hardware &#8211; which likely has high-speed connections to the data. I&#8217;m not sure if you can submit local data to be remotely processed, but that may be possible. You can be pretty sure that ESRI has not created a loop hole in their licensing, where by you can get ArcInfo functions in ArcView. And I&#8217;d submit that the cost of trying to setup a Server based system to get you access to the Editor/Info level tools will cost you much much more in time/consulting that the actual license!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Johnson</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just saw a demo of ArcGIS Server this week.  Something was mentioned almost in passing that really got MY attention, being a ArcView user - with no hope of getting Editor or Info anytime soon.

If one of our offices had ArcGIS Server setup (which it does), and a copy of ArcInfo - they could create a MXD and add tools available in ArcInfo, but not in ArcView.  They could then publish the MXD - and those tools could be accessed by me using ArcView across our WAN.  Not sure how this works technically, but the demo seemed to imply that it would work.

Now - maybe the tools only work with the data you&#039;ve loaded into the published ArcInfo MXD (there wasn&#039;t much time to ask questions like this at the demo.)  I haven&#039;t used the model builder much to determine how you&#039;d get data from your local ArcView to be an input into a model running remotely on an ArcGIS Server.  I guess I could create the MXD with the data I needed to process, transfer it over to the server and have those guys add the ArcInfo tools I needed to use and publish the MXD.

Just wondering if this topic had come up anywhere or you had a chance to try something like this out in the 9.2 versions of ArcGIS Server and ArcInfo/ArcView.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw a demo of ArcGIS Server this week.  Something was mentioned almost in passing that really got MY attention, being a ArcView user &#8211; with no hope of getting Editor or Info anytime soon.</p>
<p>If one of our offices had ArcGIS Server setup (which it does), and a copy of ArcInfo &#8211; they could create a MXD and add tools available in ArcInfo, but not in ArcView.  They could then publish the MXD &#8211; and those tools could be accessed by me using ArcView across our WAN.  Not sure how this works technically, but the demo seemed to imply that it would work.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; maybe the tools only work with the data you&#8217;ve loaded into the published ArcInfo MXD (there wasn&#8217;t much time to ask questions like this at the demo.)  I haven&#8217;t used the model builder much to determine how you&#8217;d get data from your local ArcView to be an input into a model running remotely on an ArcGIS Server.  I guess I could create the MXD with the data I needed to process, transfer it over to the server and have those guys add the ArcInfo tools I needed to use and publish the MXD.</p>
<p>Just wondering if this topic had come up anywhere or you had a chance to try something like this out in the 9.2 versions of ArcGIS Server and ArcInfo/ArcView.</p>
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		<title>By: James Fee</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Fee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On my list Dave, I gotta figure out this workgroup vs enterprise stuff for each product too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my list Dave, I gotta figure out this workgroup vs enterprise stuff for each product too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2006/08/07/arcgis-server-improvements/#comment-2151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James - be sure to get the skinny on licensing. Much of this is well and good, but if they want ??k per socket for licensing the ADF on your web server, how is that gonna fly? Rumor has it that the server is all per-socket pricing (starting with 2) - so if you run SDE/Server/ADF on one box, you&#039;re good, if you break it up (like you&#039;d want to), you&#039;d need to buy more sockets. And I just don&#039;t see that the same price per-socket for ADF as for Server is gonna fly. It would be a drag to see the ADF get crippled because the licensing is prohibitive. Maybe $500 per socket for ADF, but not the same as Server/SDE. 

Anyhow - all I&#039;ve heard is rumor so far, and since I&#039;m on there - I&#039;m hoping you can root it all out.

Cheers

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; be sure to get the skinny on licensing. Much of this is well and good, but if they want ??k per socket for licensing the ADF on your web server, how is that gonna fly? Rumor has it that the server is all per-socket pricing (starting with 2) &#8211; so if you run SDE/Server/ADF on one box, you&#8217;re good, if you break it up (like you&#8217;d want to), you&#8217;d need to buy more sockets. And I just don&#8217;t see that the same price per-socket for ADF as for Server is gonna fly. It would be a drag to see the ADF get crippled because the licensing is prohibitive. Maybe $500 per socket for ADF, but not the same as Server/SDE. </p>
<p>Anyhow &#8211; all I&#8217;ve heard is rumor so far, and since I&#8217;m on there &#8211; I&#8217;m hoping you can root it all out.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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