Adobe ships ColdFusion 8, do ArcIMS developers care?
July 30, 2007 16 Comments
I saw the news that Adobe announced the shipping of ColdFusion 8 today. I remember when ArcIMS 3 arrived, ColdFusion was the way that almost everyone developed ArcIMS sites. I recall at one of the sessions at the UC I was the only person who asked about the ActiveX controls and no one at the ESRI table could answer the question. As time went on though, Java and ActiveX (and later .NET) became the primary development options and now the ColdFusion folks are unable to get answers from the ESRI folks.
Anyway, is anyone still developing their ArcIMS sites in ColdFusion? It looks like CF8 integrates with .NET so there might be some way to use the .NET WebADF (disclaimer, I have no idea what I’m talking about here). I know I’ve seen some really impressive stuff even today in ColdFusion, but I haven’t seen much talk about it lately. With such focus on the WebADF, I have to wonder if we’ve seen the last of ESRI supporting ColdFusion directly.
cfset value = “ColdFusion is my friend”
About James Fee
Would you provide more context for your words that can certainly be characterized as badmouthing ColdFusion? Or did you mean to trick the readers of this blog into believing that your words might have been taken out of context, when their interpretation was indeed correct?
Here we go again and again and again………..
KoS
KoS, I think someone is having fun at mrcc’s expense.
Real developers like real environments. C# or Java!
More importantly… real consultants bill by the hour…
A blog post about CF and ArcIMS 3? Holy crap James! It’s like you were describing my current set up in the office.
As long as we’re talking about old, dead technology; I’ve got a commodore 64 propping open my garage door ….
Ah yes, ColdFusion….it is what happens when graphics designers are allowed to make a development environment.
I started out on CF 8 years ago, then did some ASP development and then some PHP/Perl CGI stuff. Depends what you are doing to how good something is.
I could crank out CF pages fairly quickly.. but if you need to do some processing of anything.. it wasn’t that good then.
I can still do a CF page up faster than an ASP page.. Though I don’t currently have a need for either one.
J Wallis> “Ah yes, ColdFusion….it is what happens when graphics designers are allowed to make a development environment.”
..combined with Geographers cranking out depreciated code for ArcIMS and you have the “perfect storm” of GIS web development.
How did Google Maps gain such a prominent market presence against such staggering competition?
How many geographers are doing ANYTHING with Google Maps beyond what’s available in their standard web gui?
Terms like “API”, “AJAX”, “Web Services”, and even “HTML” put the fear of technology in most people… that’s what keeps people like us employed.
who are “people like us”?
I know plenty of geographers doing more with Google Maps (or GIS in general) than just the “standard web gui”.
In fact, most of these geographers are helping programmers understand what coordinate systems and transformations are. So I would be hesitant to throw insults the geographer’s way.
“people like us” = masochists
I am not insulting geographers, I’m insulting people as in human beings. There’s a big difference.
I’ve very few geographers that have enough free-time to learn all of the latest web 2.0 buzzwords and other tech-for-the-sake-of-tech. Most of them are too busy trying to get work done to be trendy.
James…I know.
I couldn’t help playing along.
KoS
Looking at my comments from yesterday (particular #11), I see that my comments were both poorly worded and in bad taste…
I appologize to all geographers for my comments.
Don’t worry about it Cell. There are plenty of us having their fingers rubbed raw banging on keys.
We geographers are know it alls!
The name implies so.
KoS