Comments on: The Old Google Mind Trick… http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/ Geospatial Technology, Web Mapping and Spatial Services Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Bernie Connors http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12377 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:27:26 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12377 Did you use the “Report a problem” link so Google can make a correction?

Similar problem with the islands of Saint Pierre and Miqelon in the Cabot Strait:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+Brunswick,+Canada&ll=46.813689,-56.220474&spn=0.278194,0.815048&z=11

]]> By: Richard Cantwell http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12376 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:25:39 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12376 As for the comparison between the new shiny GMaps and OSM, Ed Parsons gave a talk here in Dublin this week where he freely admitted that Google have been looking very closely at OSM and have copied aspects of the project.

]]> By: Brett http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12375 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:46:17 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12375 Adding an egregious example of a lack of maintenance :)
http://bit.ly/Engxq
http://www.thenewi64.org/
(google maps routing over an interstate that has been closed since March 2007.)

]]> By: Brett http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12374 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:48:11 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12374 What maintenance?

]]> By: John Reiser http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12373 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:01:13 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12373 I’d argue that this is a step back for those hosting parcel data on those map tiles. Now you have to worry about Google’s out of date property lines conflicting with your own. At least the lines aren’t on the Hybrid layer, for now.

]]> By: mhurley http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12372 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:26:09 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12372 Its a great picture, but thats all. I do feel sorry for County GIS depts that will now have to explain to the higher ups that google is not maintaining this data and that there jobs are critical in updating and maintianing the data. Now city and County officals will think that Google can just maintain this data. Free is not free and we must put a value on all the hard work that GIS professionals do on a daily basis. When we have fires floods, earthquakes or other major events we hope the data is accurate and up to date!!!!!!!!!!!!
Data is always local to someone and accuracy and updated data saves lives and property.

]]> By: James Fee http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12371 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:34:53 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12371 @ Brian Flood

I have no problem with them doing this at all. Clearly the reason they are doing it is for mobile hyperlocal applications. When that API gets to us, then I’ll be excited. Right now the parcels aren’t any different than the terrain layer. Pretty pictures is all.

]]> By: Brian Flood http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12370 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:31:58 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12370 hey james

maybe there’s an opportunity for people providing the data then? create addon services, maybe for free or maybe for a small subscription. promote that you have the latest version of the data and use Google to drive those searching for it into your town service.

here’s a quick mapplet that benefits from the parcel lines being there for a town, you could imagine links on the parcel balloon that pointed you into premium services.
http://bit.ly/3XQjQ

further, add it to a geositemap and people can actually *find* the UI when then search google maps.

overall, I’m not sure I see the big deal here, the data is free and available to others as well right? why shouldn’t Google index it?

it doesn’t matter anyway, Google is clearly getting much deeper into the geospatial data game. its just more data to them, no different then web itself and there’s really nothing anyone is going to do stop them. in a year or two this will all be moot and forgotten.

cheers
brian

]]> By: James Fee http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12369 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:05:32 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12369 Seems like a very edge case to me. I should take a GPS out and see how accurate the parcel boundaries are in my neighborhood. Are they off by inches, feet, or yards?

]]> By: Karl http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2009/10/12/the-old-google-mind-trick/#comment-12368 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:59:05 +0000 http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/?p=3067#comment-12368 Good point James!
No Addresses and no APNs. The real truth will come when Google starts maintenance on the roads and parcels. I am already seeing missing tracts in the parcels, road without parcels and street ROW in the parcels without street segments. Like I said last week, it looks to me like they’ve conflated their aerials to match their road file.

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