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	<title>Comments on: The ESRI UC Q&amp;A Response Is Up</title>
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		<title>By: Archie Belaney</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archie Belaney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 02:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like you&#039;re out of the zone, my friend.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you&#8217;re out of the zone, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone know where to find these add-ins?
Be nice if it was as easy as searching for firefox extensions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know where to find these add-ins?<br />
Be nice if it was as easy as searching for firefox extensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That still does not erase the fact that someone deleted the City of Chesterfield from OSM, and it took 6 days to get it back.

Or that Google had the wrong Interstate 64 for two years (and the navigation database people are going on 3 years now and have yet to correct it). Or has over 40 cooling centers in the wrong location in St Louis County (which they won&#039;t correct, because not enough people will validate the corrections).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That still does not erase the fact that someone deleted the City of Chesterfield from OSM, and it took 6 days to get it back.</p>
<p>Or that Google had the wrong Interstate 64 for two years (and the navigation database people are going on 3 years now and have yet to correct it). Or has over 40 cooling centers in the wrong location in St Louis County (which they won&#8217;t correct, because not enough people will validate the corrections).</p>
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		<title>By: No time to lose</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No time to lose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 23:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whats authoritative? Some company hiring minimum wage employees to drive around?

There have been several case studies demonstrating that given two groups, one paid and not paid but interested, the volunteers get better data.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats authoritative? Some company hiring minimum wage employees to drive around?</p>
<p>There have been several case studies demonstrating that given two groups, one paid and not paid but interested, the volunteers get better data.</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Belaney</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archie Belaney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only one bad apple.

Yep, that&#039;s right. One bad actor would spoil the results, provided you don&#039;t weight and evaluate the voices. When enough people comment and vote in the same space, on the same subject, about the same issue, from very different sources...then you get a crowd. And oddly enough, with enough folks looking at the same issue, the statistical difference between their comments is remarkably narrow. Everyone&#039;s a critic, right?

Any good crowd-sourced mapping app has a human in the loop somewhere to validate and check results. But instead of looking at every issue, the folks who run these apps take the mean from the well-populated responses, and assign weight to those items where only one or a few folks are contributing. They may decide to ignore the comment, or if it&#039;s within a certain distance from a specific reference area where items receive greater priority, then that &quot;one point&quot; will get a look.

This is how Google does it. Oh, and how the navigation database folks do it as well. What did you think happened with your position every time you turned on your wireless-enabled PND and asked for a traffic update? Or every time you got a position fix, regardless.

If you use a navigation system, the chances are very, very good you&#039;re driving on crowd-sourced data. Almost a 100% in Europe, and less so in the USA. Those feedback loops are in almost all of the new generation devices...which have been driving around the Continent for some years, and started appearing here in the last year or so.

I shudder to think what it must be like to be a streets database company with your head in the sand and NOT leveraging the incredible power of the crowds. Logically, of course. So you don&#039;t take the word of someone who&#039;s masking their true identity and posing as someone else, for instance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one bad apple.</p>
<p>Yep, that&#8217;s right. One bad actor would spoil the results, provided you don&#8217;t weight and evaluate the voices. When enough people comment and vote in the same space, on the same subject, about the same issue, from very different sources&#8230;then you get a crowd. And oddly enough, with enough folks looking at the same issue, the statistical difference between their comments is remarkably narrow. Everyone&#8217;s a critic, right?</p>
<p>Any good crowd-sourced mapping app has a human in the loop somewhere to validate and check results. But instead of looking at every issue, the folks who run these apps take the mean from the well-populated responses, and assign weight to those items where only one or a few folks are contributing. They may decide to ignore the comment, or if it&#8217;s within a certain distance from a specific reference area where items receive greater priority, then that &#8220;one point&#8221; will get a look.</p>
<p>This is how Google does it. Oh, and how the navigation database folks do it as well. What did you think happened with your position every time you turned on your wireless-enabled PND and asked for a traffic update? Or every time you got a position fix, regardless.</p>
<p>If you use a navigation system, the chances are very, very good you&#8217;re driving on crowd-sourced data. Almost a 100% in Europe, and less so in the USA. Those feedback loops are in almost all of the new generation devices&#8230;which have been driving around the Continent for some years, and started appearing here in the last year or so.</p>
<p>I shudder to think what it must be like to be a streets database company with your head in the sand and NOT leveraging the incredible power of the crowds. Logically, of course. So you don&#8217;t take the word of someone who&#8217;s masking their true identity and posing as someone else, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think you meant &quot;talking down&quot; but it is a FACT that everyday citizens, even 1000 of them saying the same thing, aren&#039;t authoritative.  This is very important in government and other places with law and order.  So crowdsourced data will always have that going against it.  It only takes one bad apple to spoil the crowdsourced bunch.  I shudder at ever basing a navigation system on crowdsourced data.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think you meant &#8220;talking down&#8221; but it is a FACT that everyday citizens, even 1000 of them saying the same thing, aren&#8217;t authoritative.  This is very important in government and other places with law and order.  So crowdsourced data will always have that going against it.  It only takes one bad apple to spoil the crowdsourced bunch.  I shudder at ever basing a navigation system on crowdsourced data.</p>
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		<title>By: new jersey geographer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ArcGIS available on the iPhone</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[new jersey geographer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ArcGIS available on the iPhone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I don&#8217;t believe you can use the GPS to record features. I believe these features will come. James Fee points out that ESRI&#8217;s response to the UC FAQ regarding iOS support is positive, claiming that updates [...]
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		<title>By: Don John</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thank you: I am not of many words, but I thank you.

Methinks this is much ado about nothing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank you: I am not of many words, but I thank you.</p>
<p>Methinks this is much ado about nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Dwi Attorney</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin Dwi Attorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Thanks for the highlights, and for the insights/commentary.  Many of ESRI&#8217;s new product rollouts or major version upgrades are hyped like they&#8217;ll be game-changing only to fall flatter in reality, but it seems like 10 is indeed a big deal with lots of substantial enhancements and movement in good directions.  I&#8217;m looking forward to it.  I&#8217;m sure open source adherents will still find lots to complain about, but so far on balance I like what I see.&lt;/i&gt;
+1
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thanks for the highlights, and for the insights/commentary.  Many of ESRI&#8217;s new product rollouts or major version upgrades are hyped like they&#8217;ll be game-changing only to fall flatter in reality, but it seems like 10 is indeed a big deal with lots of substantial enhancements and movement in good directions.  I&#8217;m looking forward to it.  I&#8217;m sure open source adherents will still find lots to complain about, but so far on balance I like what I see.</i><br />
+1</p>
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		<title>By: James Fee</title>
		<link>http://spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/01/the-esri-uc-qa-response-is-up/#comment-13706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Fee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not having to have admin rights is the &quot;right&quot; way to install add-ons.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having to have admin rights is the &#8220;right&#8221; way to install add-ons.</p>
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